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If there will be actual AGI (or super intelligence), none of these arguments hold. The machines will just be better than any programmer money can buy.

Of course at that point every knowledge worker is probably unemployable anyway.



True AGI would make every worker unemployable.

The only reason why true androids aren't possible yet is software. The mechanics have been pretty much a solved problem.


Lol what. We can't even define "true intelligence" and you're telling me the "mechanics" are already solved? What do you even mean by that statement?


They can build androids with the strength/dexterity/agility equal to / surpassing that of any human. Sight, vision and vestibular (sense of balance) were of course solved last century. Not sure about tactile feedback and taste/smell.

The control systems/software is different problem, and then there is power (current gen lasts a few hours at most, depending on application this may be a problem or it may not be)


I misread your original comment. I read "true AGI" where you said "true androids."

I agree. Other than the control system, everything else is already there, or at least understood. But I think we are much farther away from "true intelligence" than AI boosters claim. We don't even know the path to it. We have guesses, but no hard evidence that those guesses will actually pan out.


This is like saying:

"If we just had a stable way to create net energy from a fusion reactor, we'd solve all energy problems".

Do we have a way to do that? No.


Yes, we do. It's called reinforcement learning and compute


You got some compute hidden in your couch? There's plenty of reason to think there's not enough compute to achieve this, and there's little reason to think compute improves intelligence linearly.


don't you follow the news? Amazon is bidding on nuclear power plants. We will just build more energy sources. We have way too much leeway to go. Also optimizations are being built both in hardware and software. There is no foreseen barrier. Maybe data to do training but now the models have pivoted to test / inference compute and reinforcement learning and that seems to have no barrier except more compute and energy. That's what stargate is, UAE princes building datacenters in France is, etc… it's all in the news. So far, it seems like a straight line to AGI

Maybe a barrier will appear but doesn't seem like it atm


Ignoring how long it takes to build a nuclear power plant, and how we have limited resources to do so, is there anything to suggest they're doing that because of AI compute? From what I understand, they just want to be carbon neutral which is difficult to do when your compute needs increase exponentially.


What if AGI is extremely expensive to run?


then we ask AGI how to make itself less expensive to run


The answer to that question is 42.

Why do you assume AGI is smarter than some human?


Why would humans be peak intelligence? There is even variation for intelligence within the species. We are probably just stuck on some local maxima that satisfies all the constraints of our environment. Current AI is already much smarter than many humans at many things.


I'm not saying humans are peak intelligence.


I'd ask it to run for free




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