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People are missing the forest for the trees on this one. I agree with the author here - unfortunate error, but the conclusion should lead to the same actions.


So the main concept people are having a disagreement here is around the concept of risk versus hazard. A thing can be a hazard, without being a risk. The data you should use to decide to take action is the amount of risk, not the amount of hazard. In the specific scenario of humans ingesting potentially dangerous substances, usually risk is directly related to the amount of exposure to a hazard. In other words, you can think of it as "risk = hazard * exposure."

For example:

- If you're a smoker, your exposure to the hazardous substances in cigarette smoke is sky-high. The risk to your health of being a smoker is so high and so clear that societies spend millions of dollars to try to convince people of the risk.

- If you're living with a smoker, but not a smoker yourself, then your exposure is lower, but still high enough to be actionable. So we see indoor smoking bans and 2nd hand smoke information also included in anti-smoking campaigns.

- If you're walking down the sidewalk and pass by a smoker for three seconds, you're still encountering the exact same hazard, but your exposure is so low that the risk is not really actionable. It's not like we see big public campaigns about crossing the street to avoid the risk of 3 seconds of exposure to second hand smoke. That's because the risk isn't there.

- Someone smoking in their house 50 miles from you is obviously zero risk to you at all, even though the hazard still exists.

You can see the same kind of pattern everywhere: car exhaust is the same hazard everywhere, but whether it's a risk worth actioning depends on whether you live in a dense urban center, or next to a busy freeway, or out in the exurbs.

So back to the plastic stuff. The study authors were claiming that the level of risk was high enough to justify everyone in the world throwing their utensils away and buying brand new ones. When it came out that the exposure factor of their "risk = hazard * exposure" formula was actually off by a factor of 10, they... stuck with the exact same story? I don't know, man. The original claim was below the acceptable risk threshold, and now it's even ten times lower than that. Surely that has some impact on the level of risk? Does this drop the risk from "smoker" to "passing by a smoker for 3 seconds"?

The distinction matters when deciding how much effort mitigating this risk requires: should I throw everything out right now, or just buy something else when my current ones wear out, or is the risk actually so low that it really does not matter? If I replace them, what is the level of risk of the things I replace them with? Should society put in the effort to ban these chemicals? What are the pros/cons of that? Are the risks mitigated worth the costs?

The authors' refusal to acknowledge this really makes me doubt that their conclusion is not affected by some kind of bias. The jury's still out, sure, but I'm not yet sold on their risk claims.


I think the paper's authors contribution to common knowledge here isn't the risk/hazard/exposure calculation - it is that there is a risk at all.


I don't think so. The authors recommended stopping using these utensils based on their faulty risk analysis, and all of the media coverage repeated that. Even after the correction, the authors are still pushing their conclusion.


At minimum it changes the urgency for individuals with existing cookware.


We are talking about black plastic spatulas and spoons, right? Existing cookware? Non-plastic replacements' price is less than 5 euro at IKEA, possibly less at local kitchenware stores... What urgency would there be apart from 'oh I need to pick up a wooden spatula for eur 0.50 next time I go to IKEA'...


Why? The risk is much much lower than they stated.


Because risk is still high. It's not astronomically high, but it's still quite high.

And it's trivial to replace with materials that don't have that risk. For a couple bucks you can remove fire retardants from your food. Why wouldn't you?




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