Though this doesn't help with the holy wars, I do find it just fantastic that there are two editors that so many find, with an acceptable amount of playing, can be the near perfect tool for their craft. I played with vim first but never quite got a flow going...oddly enough I hit it off almost immediately with emacs, it was still damn confusing but I made much more progress much faster. I'm almost disappointed I didn't fall for Vim as it is always on any server I have to use and emacs muscle memory has only compounded my problem with Vim shortcuts! For those not fancying diving into vim or emacs are there any more traditional IDE's with a way to script new behaviours and have them feel native?