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Do we have any info on this model's balance of censorship versus safety?

This is Musk after all, so I wouldn't be surprised if it strayed far from the norm.



Censorship isn't safety.


"censorship versus safety"

Do you guys have any idea how sinister "safety" sounds in this context?


For example, not telling people to eat glue just because Reddit suggests eating glue could be considered a safety measure...


Try asking it questions that are critical of Musk.


Why is this speculation your go-to first question here? Do some research yourself on the models instead of adding your own implicit bias. Are you saying the engineers at X are collaborating with Musk in a coupe for a secret censorship of their model vs others. Do you have evidence or is this your bias?


I don't think their bias was implicit. :)


Given how when grok first came out, and people started asking questions about trans people and it came back with very sensible takes (trans women are women etc), and Elon and all the techbros absolutely hated it, I'd guess steps have been taken to avoid a repeat of that


Watching the score on this go up and down as HN tries to work out if they agree with it is hilarious. I'm pretty sure its crossed 0 about four times now


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>the word "cisgender", which is banned on Twitter while the n-word is not

https://x.com/search?q=cisgender&src=typed_query&f=live

i see tons of posts with cisgender.


You are either a Musk shill or don’t use Twitter. Cis is absolutely censored. Any active twitter user that naturally uses cis/cisgender knows this. Some posts make it through clearly, but a ton don’t. It depends on how it is written and whatever is flagging stuff.


Cisgender is banned on twitter ? That's hilarious.


Accounts below a certain threshold of followers are visibility limited for using "cis", yes: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GU1sgbtXwAAPL0P?format=jpg&name=...

I believe the threshold is 35,000 followers, but don't quote me on that.


@dang why is my post flagged while what I said is true and relevant?


Generally speaking, users flag posts, not mods. I have seen that some posts are minimized on load, which I believe is done by mods; that doesn't appear to be what happened here. A bunch of people thought it was inflammatory (or disagreeable, or controversial, or whatever) enough to flag it.


Many people who claim to be "free speech absolutists" often seem unaware of their own hypocrisy.


I'm pretty sure he's fully aware it's BS. He's also the guy who censored journlists and acrivits Twitter account on day 1 when he bought the company, and also the guy who canceled a command for a Tesla by a customer after a bad review.

Musk gives no shit to free speech, it's just a rhetorical argument, which isn't unheard of: https://i.redd.it/3b470c0htra61.jpg (note that I'm obviously not comparing Musk to Hitler here…)


Not sure if it’s still true but at least for a while saying it was instant account lock. Free speech absolutism!


It is not. This is wholly false


in fairness its not entirely false - at some point he started talking about how it is banned and considered a slur on twitter... but nothing came of it and like all other slurs it continues to be allowed


Do you use twitter? Cis and cisgender are absolutely flagged a ton of the time.


i do, and i was agreeing with the case that it is not false (ie the ban is not entirely false, because he said it). then i said you can use it, just like any other slur, but i imagine it will get flagged

i imagine the confusion here is that you're making the case that cisgender is not a slur


Not sure if I meant to respond to someone else. Cisgender isn’t a slur tho yeah, that would be insane.


hey now, you can't be saying that word, that's a slur /s :P


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