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Could it be just a coincidence that IV is run by a former Microsoft executive? I'm thinking it isn't. This way Microsoft stays "clean", and Google/Motorola can't sue IV back or threaten them with their patents since it's not even a real company.


Probably not some kind of corporate conspiracy. It's sad that so many people seem to agree with you. It shows a lack of critical thinking. I'm sure we'd all like to believe in these underground corporate black-ops schemes but they're just fun to imagine, they're not reality.


The Halloween Documents of yore would suggest otherwise (http://www.catb.org/~esr/halloween/). There were also many telling e-mails revealed in the Comes v. Iowa legislation (http://www.groklaw.net/staticpages/index.php?page=2007021720...), particularly the ones regarding evangelism.

You don't have to have a deliberate "conspiracy" (a word that often seems used to dismiss reasonable explanations of events) to have people with power using their influence to get other people with power to do things for their benefit (like file proxy lawsuits a la SCO). Their past behavior is in line with nextparadigms's comment.


So, Microsoft's thoroughly confirmed connection to Baystar who invested in SCO group while they were embroiled in an IP lawsuit against IBM about Linux technology is "not reality" either?


How can you say that in general? Dirty tricks do happen. It is naive to assume everything is squeaky clean. I also think it is disingenuous to use the word conspiracy here, as if he made some tinfoil hat statement.


IV is funded by Google, among others.

"Intellectual Ventures was founded in 2000 by Nathan Myhrvold and Edward Jung of Microsoft as a private partnership. It lists Peter Detkin of Intel, and Gregory Gorder of Perkins Coie, a Seattle-based law firm as co-founders. They reportedly have raised over $5 billion from many large companies including Microsoft, Intel, Sony, Nokia, Apple, Google, SAP, Nvidia and eBay, plus investment firms such as Charles River Ventures. Reported statistics indicate over 30,000 purchased patents and applications[3] and over 2000 internally-developed inventions. Licenses to patents are obtained through investment and royalties.[4]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual_Ventures#Reference...

You're as sound in your logic as saying that because IV was founded by the author of Modernist Cuisine, it's obvious that the molecular gastronomy movement is responsible for Google's patent troubles.


Microsoft may well be completely uninvolved, but while the molecular gastronomy movement lacks any motive for involvement, the same cannot be said for Microsoft.


among other things, Intellectual Ventures filed an amici curiae brief in Microsoft v. I4I, another piece of patent litigation. on behalf of the respondents.

http://www.jdsupra.com/post/documentViewer.aspx?fid=49803802...

Intellectual Ventures has no loyalty to anything but its own inventions.

edit: incidentally, the outcome of Microsoft v. i4i (and the parent lawsuit, i4i v. Microsoft) was an out-of-court settlement where Microsoft paid i4i $300 million, at the hazard of an injunction against selling Office in the United States: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I4i


AIUI, licensees of the IV portfolio are listed "investors," so it's not actually the case that IV is "funded" by Google. Google's more of a customer.


Microsoft and IV are sleazy in similar ways, but I don't know that IV is actually Microsoft's handmaiden. It seems unlikely, given IV's investors.


I wish I could reach out of my computer and slap you.

Disclaimer: I am employed by MS, in an unrelated area.




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