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? What is your control group for claiming that masks don’t work? Florida?


seriously, 2 years in with 90%+ of the population vaccinated and mandatory masks and Omicron spreads like wildfire in the UK and you are claiming a) the vaccines stop the spread or b) that masks work. are you ignoring reality or somehow going to blame the <10% who are probably also working from home...


I didn’t claim any of that at all with my five word sentence.

But I would certainly claim that vaccines and masks are doing more than zero to help, the studies and science are openly accessible.

Even if vaccines and masks just helped stop 10% of infections it’s a gain.

What’s your improved proposal to stop an aerosol-borne virus with that kind of R0-value in places you can’t exchange air effectively?


I’ll give you a hint: they don’t have one. they just want to complain.

Kind of shocking to see objectivity normally flexed by HN thrown out the window as soon as the subject of masks comes up.


Improved ventilation as manditory, targeted vaccines, isolation for at risk groups. Careful proper monitoring for at risk groups combined with low grade random monitoring of the wider population.

Importantly EDUCATION around basic h&s and personal sanitation and not to be a mouth breather on public transport...

Masks as normal in treatment and hospital settings and frankly a working economy which focussed on increasing treatment capacity and preventative measures, aka building and installing air filters en-masse

It's not exclusively about R number is about saving lives.

80%++ of cases are far from fatal and probably 95%++ are akin to a flu like response from a healthy person. Again borne by case numbers even pre vaccine in the UK.

It's not about moaning, it's about trying to educate people in statistics, science and personal responsibility, not group think and politics.


Unfortunately staying at home forever does more than zero. But that's just not a reasonable option.

Not to repeat this as infinitum but R0 is a useful number to inform. It's not something you should be seeking to directly change.

Killing cities of people to contain outbreaks achieve a lower R0, but frankly at this stage we're so far off topic of mask efficacy or reliability.




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