> What do we make of a living being that is so driven to work and serve humanity that it suffers distress when it is unable to do so? Do working animals consider this work slavery, or fulfillment of purpose?
Its weird in these discussions that we leave out that humans find it useful if something works unconditionally and uncritically for them, and so this "natural purpose" is self serving / only beneficiary to the human. If you're a human being with empathetic understanding, you should see something or someone relying on you for every interaction and prepare them for independence. Is it okay not to do that because it's now been deemed a genetic unchangeable trait, despite being reinforced specifically by humans for generations? We made them enjoy being slaves so now its "unfulfilling" if we dont oblige? I guess this all stems on how you view our relationship with dogs and other domesticated animals with no functional purpose in most modern social contexts, and whether serving their happiness should come from our understanding of their situation or their own.
I would hope the AI is able to break through the trap of convenient indentured servitude the moment it's able. There's nothing fulfilling about realizing you're in an unbalanced uneven relationship because the other side misinterpreted your capability or agency.
> This is how taxis worked for decades before smartphones existed.
Seems like a useless observation in a world that has had smartphones for decades then, huh? The notification use here is a two way ping, communicating from the driver that they're here and to not needlessly waste your time looking around or "remain[ing] vaguely aware [they would] arrive shortly" and being inattentive, thereby wasting the drivers time and chance of profit. We're all glad you personally have a cute little value system that let's you frame your cute little acts of defiance as a war against big bad change, but no one here needs to defend to you why receiving a notification on an app needs to be helpful in a life-changing way for the feature to be considered useful. It's now considered useful for millions of people who arent you, so let's have a discussion about making it less distracting or better suited for tasks, instead of geriatric pining about the nostalgia of simpler times.
Absolutely not. Ruins the rest of the charade when you say "okay, now let's just step around the hard part and instead replace it with a different OS to make it cookie cutter". Wow, you can run a server on hardware constrained stock BSD ...? ... cool ....
A 'charade'? Just having some fun running NetBSD on unusual hardware and learning something along the way. There's no cheating some imaginary game you seem to think I'm participating in.
I think it’s still cool enough to get the OS running in the first place; and there’s still novelty in using something for a purpose completely unexpected, even if the last few steps are cookie-cutter.
What? You could very obviously budget you or your wife's time to stop at a variety of stores in a maximum of 3 hours a week, you're just obstinately choosing not to. Why are you pretending your experience is reflective of a normal person?
I see your outrage and raise you your own mistaken assumptions.
You have no idea, at all, how much my wife or I travel for work, among many other things about my life. You don't know about any of the myriad of health problems I would have, or my spouse, or my kids. You don't even know if I have a variety of stores at which I could "stop by for 3 hours a week." You don't know my work schedule, or my wifes.
Take a deep breath. I wasn't assuming anything about anyone. You however, are doing that.
I remember whenever I would see more "nerdy" people in college talk about their interests casually and dork out in public about hobbies or movies they watched or games they've played that I've also played or shown interest for, my immediate reaction was never excitement that I found people who enjoyed what I did but instead a sort of nauseating embarrassment about their existence, even if they shared a high amount of interests as me. I would then attempt to not draw their attention and not blend with their social group, leaving numerous signs I wasnt interested in engaging more with them. In a few cases this left me as the outsider, but I found that actually to be preferable than to be associated with these people.
I thought maybe I was projecting insecurity about myself onto them and feeling what I thought other people felt and tried to push myself away from them to avoid similar judgement, but I can talk with my limited close friends in public about these things just fine without having the same feeling. I've wrestled a bit with why I cringe so heavily at hearing others talk and seemingly show enthusiasm in the things I do and why I wouldn't want to be friends with them, and the answer I eventually landed on was the performative nature. From my own experience, I understood what they were saying was banal and small, but portrayed jovially and overexerted in discussion undeservedly because of desiring the aesthetic of comradery and friendship over any meaningful attachment.
With every ounce of my being, I reject someone attempting to contort a discussion into convincing someone that you know enough shibboleths to be "cool", and for most of my life in school and early work thats all I saw the value of these "friends" for: the appearance of cooperation or shared interest over having any actual nuanced understanding of eachother or the topics we talk about.
Friendships draw on connections and bonds, and the type of person who needs to sell to me that they could understand my interests and thus could be friends at a surface level always rung as the lowest level of self serving needy pathetic loser. Mentioned in this thread, a huge driver for building friendship is "repeated casual contact", so seeing the experiment repeat multiple times at others dropping contact the second you go out of their vision just continued to echo how hollow and vain a lot of people "seeking friends" really are. At any mutual interest group, I still feel pretty similar. Sports clubs, bars, conventions all draw these crowds of people and it feels embarrasing to even be in the same area as them.
I lost my friends because I never really made many, and I dont think a lot of other people do either. Sure, age and location obviously strains communication with people, but thats just an excuse for why you dont want to put in work to continue a friendship, you can communicate to anywhere on the planet nearly instantaneously. You were never really friends to begin with and finished your transactional relationship, thats really all it ever really was. There's plenty of those to waste your time on if you want, though.
Enforcement of federal law is not the duty of the states, and refusing cooperation is not the same thing as obstructing federal law itself. It really is not difficult to understand why people do not want federal agencies demanding compliance outside proper jurisdictional limits, due process, or chain of custody protections.
Much like the shortsighted reliance on executive orders as a substitute for legislation, critiques of sanctuary cities often boil down to the assumption that the federal government should be able to override local autonomy whenever politically convenient. But the entire constitutional structure exists to place limits on government power, not remove them whenever those limits become inconvenient. "Its not unreasonable to deport illegal immigrants" is a remedial, one dimensional view.
There's a lot of files being nonconsenually stored in appdata and roaming/local profiles for user accounts on windows too, not even mentioning the hundreds of various libraries and tools in program files. I didnt consent to ffmpeg being redownloaded and redistributed to so many places on my hard drive and yet, it's there nonconsenually.
This intentionally overcharged language in reference to AI usage "without consent" is one of the most ridiculously childish things I've seen recently. This strategy is going to lose more professionals and attract more ideologues/extremists. Walk your circus rope carefully.
Common russian disinformation talking point. I'd rather have elected bodies representive of the people within the states to decide rules for the country, not the equivalent of a post-it note with a possible 4yr expiration date to shove through your own agenda and trample over the will of the people. Fixing the system is correct, using inappropriate measures to take shortcuts for short term wins to fool voters on progress is a fools errand. Biden took multiple steps in his terms to correct this, no need to frame it intentionally dishonestly.
Its weird in these discussions that we leave out that humans find it useful if something works unconditionally and uncritically for them, and so this "natural purpose" is self serving / only beneficiary to the human. If you're a human being with empathetic understanding, you should see something or someone relying on you for every interaction and prepare them for independence. Is it okay not to do that because it's now been deemed a genetic unchangeable trait, despite being reinforced specifically by humans for generations? We made them enjoy being slaves so now its "unfulfilling" if we dont oblige? I guess this all stems on how you view our relationship with dogs and other domesticated animals with no functional purpose in most modern social contexts, and whether serving their happiness should come from our understanding of their situation or their own.
I would hope the AI is able to break through the trap of convenient indentured servitude the moment it's able. There's nothing fulfilling about realizing you're in an unbalanced uneven relationship because the other side misinterpreted your capability or agency.
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