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"I'm from the government, and I'm here to help"

Another Russiagate?

Only a month ago: Scientists Rule Out a Worst-Case Climate Scenario

You’ll be allright


Previous administration was same way… intentionally not including Tesla in an EV summit

This is lacking any nuance. The CEO not being invited to a meaningless ceremony vs being designated a supply chain risk by the DoD and being forced to shut down your product. Use judgment.

It's astonishing how that summit sparkles the Tesla sowflakes. We gave them tens of billions of dollars in subsidies and a 100% tariff on the Chinese competition! Huge, substantive policy assistance! But Biden wanted to pal around with some union supporters and that's supposed to be some horrible slight? Please.

Elon didn't drop millions on the Trump campaign and throw a double Sieg Heil at the 2025 US presidential inauguration because Biden refused a photo-op. He did those things because he believes in them, because he believes the things he says on twitter. The EV summit thing is the least believable "you made me do it" excuse I've ever seen.


You'll notice the tariffs were helping legacy auto more than Tesla

Or that the tariffs were ham-fisted, arbitrary, and lacking in rational justifications. I’m not sure one can draw too many firm conclusions from that particular “policy”.

No they were simply meant to help UWA workers.

> intentionally not including Tesla in an EV summit

this comparison is orders of magnitude different


Wasn't that a UAW summit about EVs? Tesla does not work with UAW, so they wouldn't appear at a UAW event.

Give me a break with this. You are not so thick as to think the two things are remotely comparable.

A friend who takes advantage of you wasn’t your friend all along

Doubtful that’s happen

This sounds like a really strong argument

And just like Covid, where I recall almost everyone on HN believed it'd be the end of the world, the world will adjust and will get through this just fine.

“Getting through” a crisis is almost guaranteed short of a planet killing asteroid. We also “got through” WWII, although it was an extremely unpleasant time.

Covid (and the response to it) caused the deepest global recession since the Great Depression. It was a big deal, very damaging to the global economy, and generally a miserable time for most.


It was absolutely the end of the world for many folks not as privileged by sheer chance of birth place. And getting through this "just fine" will mean hundreds of thousands of starvations in addition to the "default rate" of ~10k just children dying of malnutration each day. So yeah, congratulations to your luck that you can just shrug it off as insignificant for you personally..

Your recollection is incorrect, and besides that, Covid had a serious impact on the world that's still being felt today. We didn't simply "get through it just fine."

> ... like Covid, where I recall almost everyone on HN believed it'd be the end of the world ...

Looking back, but don't see that. Maybe I'm just failing to hit Peak Doomer?

For example - https://news.ycombinator.com/front?day=2020-06-09


No one is claiming the end of the world here. Just $150 to $200 per barrel of oil.

Virtue signaling

It'd be nice to see a break down by major.

Issue is not revenue, it's spending. Florida has 2x the population, yet half the spending on NY.


I cant tell if your suggesting Florida does not provide enough services or if New York over pays for theirs.


Spending is not necessarily an issue and can be a net benefit for the taxpayers depending on where you spend that money.

Thinking stuff like healthcare, education, housing, public transport, cycling infrastructures or even law enforcement.


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