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A moderator added it to the second-chance pool: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26998309

Ah! Makes sense.

ACLU of IL v. Alvarez (2012): "The act of making an audio or audiovisual recording is necessarily included within the First Amendment’s guarantee of speech and press rights as a corollary of the right to disseminate the resulting recording."

Washington State just exempted Flock data from its public records law. https://app.leg.wa.gov/billsummary?billnumber=6002&year=2025...

that's craaazy


So, who's gearing up to sue the FTC for a declaratory judgment that this is unconstitutional?


Is that an option? Tell me more.

Yes, I am looking to sue to stop this insanity. If you're a lawyer reading this, please reach out.


It's an option if you can articulate an injury under the bill. I suspect non-commercial "operating system providers" arguing infringement of speech would be best positioned to be plaintiffs. This is not legal advice.


There is an increasingly popular idea that all libertarianism, including civil libertianism, is inherently partisan and specifically right-wing. I think it has done a lot of damage to these organizations' ability to effectively fight this and other issues. I've shifted a lot of my support for ACLU/EFF towards IJ in recent years.


18 U.S.C. § 2311 defines "money" in the context of stolen property as:

> the legal tender of the United States or of any foreign country, or any counterfeit thereof

Bitcoin has, at times, met this standard by being the legal tender of a foreign country.


Wait, does that mean that counterfeit money is legally money in the US?


For the purpose of charging someone with a crime under 18 U.S.C. Chapter 113, yes.


There's no contradiction; ad blocker usage is common within the industry.


There certainly is a contradiction, but it's so deeply ingrained that using ad blockers is OK that people can't see it even when it's right in front of their faces.

If everyone used 100% effective ad blockers, Alphabet (minus GCP) and Meta would not exist, and nor would the very large number of free-as-in-beer services that make up a large part of what makes the internet useful to people.


> If everyone used 100% effective ad blockers, Alphabet (minus GCP) and Meta would not exist

Sounds incredible. How do we make this paradise happen?


Remember the part about all the free-as-in-beer stuff on the internet that people find really useful, and that wouldn't exist if not for ads?

That stuff doesn't depend on Alphabet and Meta specifically. It depends on ads. No ads = no that stuff. Are you happy for it to all disappear?


What about all the free-as-in-beer stuff that doesn't depend on ads? Like, er, this site?


For Meta specifically, what exactly would be so bad about all their stuff disappearing? I can't think of much. Messenger is the only thing of theirs that has any value as far as I can see, and there's many alternatives now.


Demur. RayBan Meta and Oakley Meta glasses are fantastic devices.


I'd rather have five or ten smaller competing companies getting various deals from the glasses manufacturers than a couple huge companies getting them all.


Mostly because I don’t believe anything of value would actually be lost (note you provided no examples and I’m not sure any exist), that also sounds incredible. So again, how do we make this no-ads paradise happen?


I wout be absolutely delighted for it to all disappear and for the internet to go back to being only for enthusiasts again


It's not free, we pay for it with our attention. I'd rather pay with money.


How does my attention, the time I spend reading news.ycombinator.com, pay for the site? I DON'T run an ad blocker, but I am not watching any ads here.


HN regularly runs ads for YC companies. https://news.ycombinator.com/jobguide.html


HN is a recruitment tool for Y Combinator. Someone is paying for it with their attention.

Did you think they are running it out of the goodness of their heart?


The internet worked before everything was plastered with ads.


> nor would the very large number of free-as-in-beer services that make up a large part of what makes the internet useful to people.

Whatever replaced them could hardly be worse than the shit we currently have. I refuse to believe we live in a global maximum.


You could be right, but I personally am much more comfortable paying with a few milliseconds of my attention for news/email/short comedy clips/timezone conversion/etc. than even a single cent of actual money. And it has to be one or the other -- right?


Of course you are, that's why we are in this Faustian bargain. It's hard to compete with free-as-in-beer.


>than even a single cent of actual money.

I think we often pay those cents without knowing. Companies we employ or purchase from despite never having been subject to their adspend, etc


Registries have always had the ability to revoke number assignments; RPKI just makes this revocation slightly more forceful. You're going to have a bad time announcing prefixes that don't belong to you, even in the absence of RPKI.

We're all internetworking at the pleasure of IANA. Getting them out of the picture, and removing their ability to deplatform Internet participants, is a much larger task than just moving away from RPKI. We'd need to completely rethink how ASN and IP assignments are done.


Registries have tended to leave existing registration data alone in case of a situation like sanctions. They won't let you register more numbers, nor will they deregister them. If you just need the numbers, that's fine. If you also depend on the registry regularly taking data updates from you, that's a problem.


If we had to live with this rule during the "classic" Mac era, it would have disallowed HyperCard.


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